Andrew Bustamante: Self-Proclaimed "CIA" Agent

[Elena]

I googled his name after listening to three of his YouTube interviews. I was impressed with the information in the first one, which was chronologically his newest interview. I started having questions during the second one. In the third interview, chronologically the earliest of the three, I heard obvious inconsistencies and contradictions with the other two. He gives different answers to the same questions about his own life.

Thus, he answers readily, speaks confidently, and contradicts himself from one interview to another. He is clearly not concerned that someone will notice the inconsistencies and publicly confront him about them. And that lack of concern for the public discovery of his lies, combined with the ability to skillfully lie on the go, is a telltale sign of either sociopathy or psychopathy. The other red flags that I noticed include his very confident provision of incorrect information on certain aspects of human psychology and on a foreign culture with which he is clearly completely unfamiliar. The key word here is “confidently”, and again, without a concern for being called out on that.

Some other aspects of how he speaks and presents himself add to the basket of ‘likely a sociopath or psychopath’. The question here was whether he really worked for the CIA. Sociopaths and psychopaths are very skillful liars. So, there is a high probability he lies about that too, and his 'CIA knowledge and skills on how to manipulate people' are just his own skills. I suppose, that would qualify him, at least to a certain degree, to teach how to manipulate others, however, I would be sceptical about quality of any other 'knowledge' that he shares,

 

[Countrygal]

Bitching about this here because there is literally no where else on the internet to do so. This guy has controlled his internet presence so carefully that it is insane.

First off, I am pretty sure that this guy is not CIA, never was/has been. Maybe air force put somewhere near cool people, but there is no way that he actually was ever in. At best he is some reject from FANX who decided to talk a bit big. There are a few really easy ways to tell that he is no where near legit:

• He says on his linkedin that he has secret clearance.
• Talking about what clearances you have/had publicly is a very big no no, and if he was legit OPM would be out bonking him in the head with a bat.
• Saying you have secret clearance is like saying you have a highschool diploma. It is the most basic level of clearance that is given to pretty much everyone. I know 18 year old kids that were given secret for esentially no reason. It is the bottom of the barrel for clearance levels.
• If he was ops side like he claims, he would never be allowed to ever publicly state that he worked for the CIA. Analyst people can, and every once in a while some admin people can, but ops side never can. Sometimes they might say they are "state department" or whatever, but they can't really ever talk about anything they do.
• Almost everything Bustamante has ever talked about can pretty much be gleaned from a spy movie. Want to hear about way cooler things than this stuff? Watch a defcon talk called "advanced physical security," its a bit dated but its actually vaguely accurate.
• Lets assume that he is real, was ops side, AND was able to say it (huge stretch already). He would never be able to talk about the actual techniques and theory being used behind the scenes. There exist entire departments at the CIA, NSA, DIA, ect just to control what goes out into the public through FIOA's. If he was legit then he would be a total and complete nightmare, to the point that CID might even get involved.

This guy is pretty much a serial fraudster, of which this is his newest grift. Most of his books are trashy overpriced self help books in which he caters to people who do not feel like they have control in their life. Like god, read some of these listings:

"'Everyday Espionage: Winning the Workplace' teaches you how to use spycraft to win what you want in the workplace"
https://new.everydayspy.com/wtw1 -- https://archive.is/IUJ9Y

"SEX & SPIES gives you the POWER to unleash your sex, pleasure, and libido on YOUR own terms using elite spy skills."
nigga WHAT
https://new.everydayspy.com/sex1 -- https://archive.is/lUEYw

One of the funniest elements of this guy is his "OPTHINK" course, of which he charges a whopping $997.00. This gives you access to his learning materials and his "secret chat" that is part of his "OPTHINK platform." Of course this is actually just a shitty discord chat room that you pay a lot of money for, and unfortunately it is configured incorrectly. Any user can see the room and all of its messages, they just can't post. After reading through them, a good idea of the material being taught can be gathered. Apparently this genius has been telling people to use FUCKING MYER BRIGGS TESTS ON PEOPLE FOR "BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS." I have absolutely NO idea where this fucking retarded gem came from but I ended up laughing so hard that I almost swallowed my cig.

The best part of all of this is that for a "spy," Bustamante has really piss poor opsec. I am not going to post it here because it clearly includes his genuine honest to god home address, but I am pretty sure that he is in the process of creating one of those "crypto arbitrage trading bot" ponzi schemes.

Tl;dr, this guy is a legitimate disgrace to the actual IC, to the point of being stolen valor. If you want some actual idea of what analysis is like go rip "cases in intelligence analysis" off libgen or something. Anyways, im out.

like the old style forum btw

This is a small gotcha but the reason I went looking to see if he was legit was his comment about “getting a full ride scholarship” to the Air force Academy. That is not something ANY academy cadet or graduate would ever say because if u accepted (appointed) to any of the academies the government pays for it-there are no scholarships. My husband is West Point grad and when we moved to a small town in Oregon some yahoo tried to us that he went to West Point on a partial scholarship-no. When this guy, Andrew Bustamente, said I got a full scholarship to AFC my bs radar went off immediately. You obviously have a lot more info that proves he’s full of shit but here’s one more little nugget to throw on that fire.

 

[Meg]

Bitching about this here because there is literally no where else on the internet to do so. This guy has controlled his internet presence so carefully that it is insane.

First off, I am pretty sure that this guy is not CIA, never was/has been. Maybe air force put somewhere near cool people, but there is no way that he actually was ever in. At best he is some reject from FANX who decided to talk a bit big. There are a few really easy ways to tell that he is no where near legit:

• He says on his linkedin that he has secret clearance.
• Talking about what clearances you have/had publicly is a very big no no, and if he was legit OPM would be out bonking him in the head with a bat.
• Saying you have secret clearance is like saying you have a highschool diploma. It is the most basic level of clearance that is given to pretty much everyone. I know 18 year old kids that were given secret for esentially no reason. It is the bottom of the barrel for clearance levels.
• If he was ops side like he claims, he would never be allowed to ever publicly state that he worked for the CIA. Analyst people can, and every once in a while some admin people can, but ops side never can. Sometimes they might say they are "state department" or whatever, but they can't really ever talk about anything they do.
• Almost everything Bustamante has ever talked about can pretty much be gleaned from a spy movie. Want to hear about way cooler things than this stuff? Watch a defcon talk called "advanced physical security," its a bit dated but its actually vaguely accurate.
• Lets assume that he is real, was ops side, AND was able to say it (huge stretch already). He would never be able to talk about the actual techniques and theory being used behind the scenes. There exist entire departments at the CIA, NSA, DIA, ect just to control what goes out into the public through FIOA's. If he was legit then he would be a total and complete nightmare, to the point that CID might even get involved.

This guy is pretty much a serial fraudster, of which this is his newest grift. Most of his books are trashy overpriced self help books in which he caters to people who do not feel like they have control in their life. Like god, read some of these listings:

"'Everyday Espionage: Winning the Workplace' teaches you how to use spycraft to win what you want in the workplace"
https://new.everydayspy.com/wtw1 -- https://archive.is/IUJ9Y

"SEX & SPIES gives you the POWER to unleash your sex, pleasure, and libido on YOUR own terms using elite spy skills."
nigga WHAT
https://new.everydayspy.com/sex1 -- https://archive.is/lUEYw

One of the funniest elements of this guy is his "OPTHINK" course, of which he charges a whopping $997.00. This gives you access to his learning materials and his "secret chat" that is part of his "OPTHINK platform." Of course this is actually just a shitty discord chat room that you pay a lot of money for, and unfortunately it is configured incorrectly. Any user can see the room and all of its messages, they just can't post. After reading through them, a good idea of the material being taught can be gathered. Apparently this genius has been telling people to use FUCKING MYER BRIGGS TESTS ON PEOPLE FOR "BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS." I have absolutely NO idea where this fucking retarded gem came from but I ended up laughing so hard that I almost swallowed my cig.

The best part of all of this is that for a "spy," Bustamante has really piss poor opsec. I am not going to post it here because it clearly includes his genuine honest to god home address, but I am pretty sure that he is in the process of creating one of those "crypto arbitrage trading bot" ponzi schemes.

Tl;dr, this guy is a legitimate disgrace to the actual IC, to the point of being stolen valor. If you want some actual idea of what analysis is like go rip "cases in intelligence analysis" off libgen or something. Anyways, im out.

like the old style forum btw

So, I came across a video where this guy said everyone needs to leave the US by 2030, and the claims were just outlandish. Looking further, I see he claims he was a CIA agent and an air force officer in charge of nuclear weapons. My bs meter pops more red flags than a May Day parade in Red Square. I start looking into some of his claims (USAFA graduate, etc).

Initially, I could not find any record of him at the academy. I looked thru yearbooks and alumni sites, scoured the congressional record for a notice of his nomination to the academy, etc. I was diverted in other directions, and noticed that his wife had the same last name on her degrees. Then it hit me to search on his first name and middle initial. He took his wife's name when they married (no shame in that I guess, but why?). And I found him in the yearbooks. Fun fact, his final year, there is an entry, but no picture of him. Anyway...

I've been reading up on things like how long it takes to move from one rank to another, training times for various specialties, etc. Did you know to get promoted to 1st Lieutenant from 2nd Lt, you need to have 24 months of "time in grade" to be eligible for promotion to 1st Lieutenant? That's just to be eligible for promotion. Then another 24 months as a 1st Lieutenant until you are eligible for promotion to Captain (O-3).

His first assignment (not counting the Officer in Residence thing), was "Junior Officer; Air Force Pilot Training", at Moody AFB. This could be plausible, there was an Undergraduate Pilot Training presence there between 2000 and 2007 (Andrew was there from Nov 2004-August 2005). But what could he have learned there? I doubt it was pilot training, unless he washed out, because the timeline is just too short.

Next assignment, Nuclear Missile Operations; Officer in Charge! This one seems the most sus. To be a missileer, you need to go thru intensive schooling, and that entry does not appear on his linkedin. Why would you not want to include that!?!?! The other part that makes me question if he was actually involved in Nuclear Missile Operations, is that the requirements for officers are to have some sort of STEM degree. Andrew's is "Foreign Area Studies" with a focus on Asia (nothing wrong with that). So to even start the training for this station, he is missing a big requirement.

The CIA stuff is rather hard to verify. But still, a field operator being so open about all of this stuff? So public? I can't make that make sense. It reminds me of "Archangel", the guy who used to post to usenet newsgroups, claiming to be a retired CIA hacker. At best, I've seen some people claim he used to be a contractor for BAH or one of the other companies that does stuff for the intel community.

There are so many questions.

He was at the Academy and I knew him then. You are right, that’s not his real last name. He did go to pilot training & I think washed out. Last time I knew of him, until I recognized him all over the internet. Always a charismatic good talker….his biggest asset.