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<p>[QUOTE="Addendum_Forthcoming, post: 4161, member: 22"]</p><p>But that's not the crux of the issue. I don't wake up each day and say; "Thank god(s) I was born in the 20th century so I won't die of cholera." Nor should anyone feel particularly divinely praiseworthy of their doctor doing their standard level of duty of care when they're given 5 times on average the take home pay of a garbage collector. </p><p></p><p>There is prosocial benefits to humans being legitimately and sincerely thankful to the services of other people. Paid or otherwise. But that is not a divine virtue, but rather material. We should be thankful to other people because it makes us happier individuals to be treated as humans who labour for the utilitarian good of others at a rate of payment that allows the exploitation by society of said labours to trend towards self-sufficiency and development of its economic realities.</p><p></p><p>The theodices that stipulate 'water needs to be wet for ships to float... even if it means people drown' ignores the problem we are ruled by hindsight, not foresight.</p><p></p><p>Hardship only builds hard hearts. The opposite of love is not hatred. Hatreds do not inspire love, merely make us dependent on others who show affection in its place. People who face hatred are not better people for it, nor is their social situations made better for it. A trans person who gets berated by another kid or their parents simply for ghe sin of attending the same secondary school as them, is not a stronger person for it ... and in turn does not make one more secure or thankful in turn. It makes them suspicious, angry, lonely, and depressed.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Addendum_Forthcoming, post: 4161, member: 22"] But that's not the crux of the issue. I don't wake up each day and say; "Thank god(s) I was born in the 20th century so I won't die of cholera." Nor should anyone feel particularly divinely praiseworthy of their doctor doing their standard level of duty of care when they're given 5 times on average the take home pay of a garbage collector. There is prosocial benefits to humans being legitimately and sincerely thankful to the services of other people. Paid or otherwise. But that is not a divine virtue, but rather material. We should be thankful to other people because it makes us happier individuals to be treated as humans who labour for the utilitarian good of others at a rate of payment that allows the exploitation by society of said labours to trend towards self-sufficiency and development of its economic realities. The theodices that stipulate 'water needs to be wet for ships to float... even if it means people drown' ignores the problem we are ruled by hindsight, not foresight. Hardship only builds hard hearts. The opposite of love is not hatred. Hatreds do not inspire love, merely make us dependent on others who show affection in its place. People who face hatred are not better people for it, nor is their social situations made better for it. A trans person who gets berated by another kid or their parents simply for ghe sin of attending the same secondary school as them, is not a stronger person for it ... and in turn does not make one more secure or thankful in turn. It makes them suspicious, angry, lonely, and depressed. [/QUOTE]
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